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Downtown Sidewalks and Parking Lots

To the City of Stillwater:
We would like to know what the policy is for the shoveling of downtown sidewalks.  We walk downtown several days a week and have noticed the horrible conditions of the sidewalks on Main St.  and the feeder streets.  Many merchants are not even making an attempt to keep their walks clean.  There is also a problem with the parking lots not being plowed.  Today there was a lady with a cane  who could not make it from her car to the sidewalk .  My husband and another gentleman helped her through the lot, but when she got to the sidewalk, it was no better.  At another location (Lucky's Gas Station) a child fell because of the snow blocking the corner.  This was a recurring problem last year at this location.  It was so bad that you had to climb a snow bank to reach the walk button. This is a sad commentary for our downtown. This seems to be a yearly occurrence. The snow has not even been shoveled on the sidewalk in front of the new pavilion area.  The city wants to promote its downtown but seems unwilling to make it convenient for people to shop.  We realize that it is difficult when snow comes in small amounts frequently, but this is no excuse for shop owners not to clear their areas.  Someone is always working in the store and can take the few minutes necessary to shovel.  What role does the Chamber of Commerce have in keeping the city "shopper friendly"?  We go to White Bear Lake and their walks are done. They seem to realize that people won't come to shop if their walks are in a dangerous condition. If there is no policy we suggest one be put in place, if there is a policy please enforce it. 

Sincerely,
Mary and Bob Molenda
Roy Roscoe January 04, 2014 at 06:09 PM
Wow it sounds like Stillwater after dark is ahh wretched! If my storefront was getting puked on every night I'd get a couple if GoPros and film the culprits then play back on projection screens continuous loop so the next night's crowd could see what they have to look forward to. You too could be on You Tube.
Randy Marsh January 04, 2014 at 06:38 PM
Of course those business owners are paying for those bathrooms and amenities, just like all the rest of the taxpayers in Stillwater who won't necessarily benefit directly from their existence. Can you point to any other commercial areas of Stillwater that have benefited from our tax dollars at a higher rate than downtown? Of course not. They are the ones that should probably be asking what about us, but instead we just get more bitching from the IBA and you, apparently. The levee is largely paid for by the feds, but I think there is a cap on that amount and I believe Stillwater is making investments into other areas of the park (not to mention the eventual development of the Aiple (sp) property. I believe you are overstating the amount of vomiting taking place downtown and even if it does resemble a scene from The Exorcist I would suggest it's nothing a little shot with a hose can't handle. I'm well aware of Dickie's arrangements with the city thanks to his accountant/mayor but I would rather see the city just make all parking free except for the few business folks and residents who might have some reserved parking spots.
Beth O. January 04, 2014 at 08:36 PM
Pete, it's not that tough to be your intellectual superior. You're regularly beaten down in the comments, and you're certainly at the bottom on this thread. And from a proud U of M grad, coronas cornonabit te tribulation.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 06:57 AM
Beth Low and slow over the base. Some swing for the fences. The Lout
Alex Mundy January 05, 2014 at 11:44 AM
Is that from a fortune cookie, Pete? Maybe your condescending attitude toward women is a product of the patriarchal society of your upbringing. But that's no excuse. Here, women aren't ten steps behind you. As Beth and Susan have shown, they're way ahead. And I thought you were a multi-national commercial manufacturer, not a Main Street retailer plagued by out-of-control, after-hours vomiting.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 12:05 PM
This is funny mundy. Do you understand what low and slow over the base means? Seems you dont. I have two grown daughters along with my persanol secretary that nearly has her PHD. Have many women working for me both hear in us and out country. They are mostly all educated and humble women that demonstrate smarts as opposed to telling folks. I really like that.
Susan January 05, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Pete, I am not speaking for you, but I would like clarification, please. Are you saying women should know their place or you will tell it to them--or is that anybody? Just curious because it seems you often comment in way that cannot be described as humble.
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 12:24 PM
It's laughable that Alex thinks Patch is an IQ measuring device for Susan, Beth and himself too I presume. I wonder if he thinks high scores playing Mario correlate to success in the lottery drawing? Alex seriously you can't see the dough fully risen with the gender feminine cyber organisms mentioned can you?
Alex Mundy January 05, 2014 at 12:26 PM
And do you routinely demean your secretary and the women who work for you by calling them "baby" and "sweetie," Pete? It's a little late to backpedal.
Alex Mundy January 05, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Roy, why don't you go back to enjoying your latest pot shipment from Colorado? The adults are having a conversation.
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 01:19 PM
Alex, I should remind you pot is illegal in Minnesota. Colorado is an example of selective federal enforcement and I don't smoke anything. Furthermore, you never converse. You entertain yourself, and sometimes others but not with conversation. It may be a attempt but it does not succeed. If a test, were needed to partake in Patch you and your cohorts would certainly be still trying to pass.
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 01:21 PM
Alex, Calling somebody "sweetie" is sometimes a compliment. It is when that is a far more generous description than they deserve.
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 01:27 PM
I'm pretty confident, based on the way Pete communicates, that he has never had issues with his word choices at work. I would bet that he would reform an employee or let an employee find work with another employer if she preformed duties in a manner where "Sweetie" used in the way it is on Patch was ever a compelling urge. Read between the lines Alex.
Susan January 05, 2014 at 01:49 PM
Roy, calling a woman you have never met "sweety", and the way it was done here, can indeed be offensive. Now, unless you are a woman, I would suggest that you stop defending what has been written here, as it gives us a more detailed picture of not only your own feelings about women, but also your uncontrolled compulsion to argue against anyhing that Alex or I type--no matter how foolishly you try to spin your argument. And BTW, Alex most certainly talks about the topic and you are really one to complain about amusing yourself with Patch! You are Patch's King of nonsense comments designed only to get people to continue debating with you so you can insult their intelligence. -------- Honestly, I think Pete made a foolish mistake in response to an insult, as we all have. it was pointed out that it was not appreciated. I simply asked for clarification which could have put the issue to bed. Can we please do that, or do we need another exercise in Roy's never ending spin machine which quickly devolves into insult slinging?
Alex Mundy January 05, 2014 at 03:36 PM
Roy, whether I'm reading between the lines or the actual lines themselves, your comments make little sense. You seem to equate confusion with amusement. An 8th grade English teacher would run out of red ink correcting your most recent gem: "I would bet that he would reform an employee or let an employee find work with another employer if she preformed duties in a manner where 'Sweetie' used in the way it is on Patch was ever a compelling urge." Why use ten words when 40 will do, right Roy?
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 07:26 PM
Alex, I'm sorry you have an impediment. But, you only have yourself to blame. Susan, Thanks for straightening us out, Hon.
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 07:28 PM
Alex, Did you get your shoes on the right feet today? I know. I know Alex, they are the only feet you gots!
Susan January 05, 2014 at 07:44 PM
No problem, jack@ss-and I don't mean the four legged kind, I mean the human kind....just to be clear that I am not dehumanizing you.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 07:49 PM
And sassy too! Guns and Roses.
Alex Mundy January 05, 2014 at 07:54 PM
Pete, by the way, your "low and slow over the base" is such a popular and well-recognized term that a Google search shows 7 uses (and one is yours) on the WHOLE INTERNET . . . ever!
Susan January 05, 2014 at 07:57 PM
Sorry, I call them as I see them. This one is a long time coming. Even Matt, who Roy defends to an illogical end, has told him to tone down the insults. Anyone who dare disagree is stupid, apparently. Whether you are discussing politics, local issues, taxes, or religion, Roy eventually tells you how unintelligent you are. Usually, that eventuality is in about two comments. But of-course that is okay, because it is not "dehumanizing" anyone. The man could not stay on topic if God himself ordered it. Let's see if he can leave that one alone?
Susan January 05, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Pete, you really do need to work on your proverbs, it seems you are remembering incorrectly or making them up as you go.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 08:04 PM
Susan, Oops. I meant Buns and Roses.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 08:07 PM
Matt, Sometimes when boys are born, the doctor smacks them a little to hard, causing stuff to fall off. Did your parents sue? Has this thread been hijacked?
Susan January 05, 2014 at 08:08 PM
BTW, Roy, still waiting for your retraction...you know, your statement that Dayton called school off for tomorrow because he wanted to give the union teachers a little perk.
Susan January 05, 2014 at 08:11 PM
So now Matt has no cojones because he told Roy to knock it off? <No wonder you can't get in a discussion without someone pointing to your charm and wit, Pete.> <sarcasm>...just so to be clear.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 08:19 PM
Sassy-wuuhuuuu!
Susan January 05, 2014 at 08:22 PM
I like sassy.
Pete January 05, 2014 at 08:31 PM
Sassy mixed with wit!
Roy Roscoe January 05, 2014 at 09:55 PM
Alex plays baseball like Obama.

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